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Has Obama cut off information to Israel?
Lack of communication 'not normal practice'


Posted: May 10, 2009
6:10 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein
©️ 2009 WorldNetDaily
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JERUSALEM – Unlike the Bush administration, the staff of President Obama is not coordinating its policy on Iran or the greater Middle East with Israel and has not been informing the Jewish state of its plans or recent diplomatic developments in area, according to sources in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office.
The silence extends to U.S. talks with the Palestinians, the sources said.


"Our intention and our hope as we go to Washington is to establish close intimate cooperative relationships on these sensitive matters," a top Netanyahu official told WND yesterday.

The official was speaking about Netanyahu's May 18th visit to the White House.

According to other sources in the prime minister's office, Israel has been obtaining the vast majority of its information regarding U.S. plans and advances for the Middle East from third parties, mostly European diplomats.

This is in stark contrast to Bush's eight-year presidency, during which the White House and State Department routinely briefed Israeli counterparts on Middle East affairs to the extent that the majority of official U.S. and Israeli statements on various policy issues were heavily coordinated.

A recent example of the Obama administration leaving Israel in the dark was information received by Jerusalem officials of a U.S. deadline of October for Iran to show progress in talks over their nuclear program. That deadline was apparently set by Obama's Middle East envoy Dennis Ross.


The information of the deadline - first reported by Haaretz yesterday and confirmed by WND - was discovered in Jerusalem not via U.S. sources but from third party European diplomats who were briefed on the matter.

"Right now there is next to no communication coming to us from the White House," said a source in Netanyahu's office.

The source warned against interpreting the matter as evidencing an anti-Israel bias from the Obama administration.

"Look, there is a new administration in the U.S. and a new one here (in Israel)," the source said. "There hasn't been so much time yet to establish channels."

Still, the source noted the extent of the blackout on information from the U.S. was "not usual practice."
A second source said the lack of communication between Israel and America extends to Israeli-Palestinian affairs. That source described a meeting last month between Netanyahu and another of Obama's Middle East envoys, George Mitchell. The source said the meeting largely was a one-way street, with the prime minister sharing his intended approach to Syria and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He said Mitchell outlined Obama's overall strategy for the region, but did not update Netanyahu on any talks with the Palestinians or specifics of Obama's intentions.


"Other than the Mitchell meeting, basically there wasn't much other communication at all, period," said the second source. "And we were not informed beforehand of policy statements that were made by Obama or his administration regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including statements Obama made after meeting Jordan's King Abdullah (last month)."

Obama trumpets 'anti-Israel' Arab plan
WND's source said one thing Mitchell did convey to Netanyahu was Obama's alleged plan to help create a Palestinian state in hopes of normalizing relations between Israel and the Arab world in line with the "Arab Peace Initiative." The source said Mitchell relayed that Obama's Middle East strategy would be based on the concept of the "initiative" but with security guarantees for Israel.


Following scores of denials he would trumpet the plan, Obama in January hailed the Arab initiative, which offers normalization of ties with the Jewish state in exchange for extreme Israeli concessions.

In an interview with an Arab television network – his first formal interview as president – Obama stated:
"Well, here's what I think is important. Look at the proposal that was put forth by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. ... I might not agree with every aspect of the proposal, but it took great courage to put forward something that is as significant as that. I think that there are ideas across the region of how we might pursue peace. I do think that it is impossible for us to think only in terms of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict and not think in terms of what's happening with Syria or Iran or Lebanon or Afghanistan and Pakistan."
Since then, Obama and his team have trumpeted the plan several more times, including during a meeting last month with Jordan's Abdullah.


The Arab Initiative, originally proposed by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia in 2002 and later adopted by the Arab League, states that Israel would receive "normal relations" with the Arab world in exchange for a full withdrawal from the entire Gaza Strip, West Bank, Golan Heights and eastern Jerusalem, which includes the Temple Mount.

The West Bank contains important Jewish biblical sites and borders central Israeli population centers, while the Golan Heights looks down on Israeli civilian zones and was twice used by Syria to mount ground invasions into the Jewish state.

The Arab plan also demands the imposition of a non-binding U.N. resolution that calls for so-called Palestinian refugees who wish to move inside Israel to be permitted to do so at the "earliest practicable date."

Palestinians have long demanded the "right of return" for millions of "refugees," a formula Israeli officials across the political spectrum warn is code for Israel's destruction by flooding the Jewish state with millions of Arabs, thereby changing its demographics.

When Arab countries attacked the Jewish state after its creation in 1948, some 725,000 Arabs living within Israel's borders fled or were expelled from the area that became Israel. Also at that time, about 820,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries or fled following rampant persecution.

While most Jewish refugees were absorbed by Israel and other countries, the majority of Palestinian Arabs have been maintained in 59 U.N.-run camps that do not seek to settle the Arabs elsewhere. There are currently about 4 million Arabs who claim Palestinian refugee status with the U.N., including children and grandchildren of the original fleeing Arabs, Arabs living full-time in Jordan and Arabs who long ago emigrated throughout the Middle East and to the West.
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Beautifully crafted discussion with two major flaws: use of hysterical "Judenrein" phrase indicates that author himself is so unsure of his argument that he ends with the greatest argument at his disposal: "remember Holocaust".

Need to use this emotional blackmail may have something with quality of Mr Rosen's argument which mirrors Netanyahu's beautifully crafted phraseology: "There is no ban on Arabs buying apartments in the west of the city, and there is no ban on Jews building or buying in the city's east.

Alas: THERE IS NO BAN ON ARABS BUYING APARTMENTS IN THE WEST OF THE CITY - however Arabs NOT banned can be counted on the fingers of one hand as the deliberate policy of bureaucratic cleansing of Jerusalem is in full swing.

Google it, read first ten articles, and you will never be able to say you didn't know and that is why you believed in the arguments in this article.
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rticle is a partially enlightening, but unimaginative piece. Since this appears to be a wire service editorial, I don't suppose he'll be able to respond to what is surely a mixture of engaged and idiotic replies, with the latter so far predominating. Of course the basic goodness of Israel's policies are widely available in the historical record, not to mention each day's newspaper headlines. Israel certainly has done everything and more that a reasonable power can be expected to do in response to the blatantly genocidal goals of its attackers. Expect it to continue showing more patience than any other country would when surrounded by such barbarians.

Knepper fails, however, in seeing Obama's stance as infallibly hostile. That is clearly untrue. It is true that Obama has failed to grasp the greater issues, but why does he believe that situation will last? He's the president now, and it shouldn't be too long before he finds that all the overtures to the Palestinians will go nowhere, while Israel remains an honest player in the continuing game of Middle East terrorism and defense. Granted, Netanyahu is less inclined to bend Israel over backwards once again, but Obama's a clever guy and a people person. He'll see each party soon enough for what they are. Given a choice, I'd rather it be sooner than later, but to characterize this delay as complicity with the anti-Semites of the world and of UNM is to have a seriously premature knee-jerk reaction to long-standing and complex political problems.
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